Operation Blunder | France

[Deleted member 5]

French Armed Forces
Operation Blunder
TOP SECRET & CLASSIFIED- Stored on the paper document

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Background of Operation Blunder

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After confirmation French Ministry of Defense and with the request from French government, French Navy and French Army and French Air force would be ready to defend the France. Operation Blunder is the war military deployment within French water to help them to fight against Argentina. This operation will drop ballistic missile at Alexandria areas within Argentine water to fight against the Argentine forces and conduct other relevant activities. All other information about this operation are Top Secret & Classified.

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Objectives of Operation Blunder

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Naval Operation​

1. Conduct Naval blockade to Argentine ships and sink them as they progress to French waters.
2. Engage, if they attempt to punch through the lines.
3. Interdict any Argentine Ships or foreign ships attempting to egress through the Gulf of Lion, Bay of Biscay to support Argentina Operations at Mediterranean Sea and Balearic Sea.
4. Drop Ballistic Missiles at the Alexandria, Balearic Sea, Mediterranean Sea and destroy as soon as possible.
5. Place the entire Maritime Defense component of French Maritime Protection Command on alert 24/7.

Air Operation​

1. Intercept any Argentine, or Unidentified Aircraft including commercial and military that enter French Airspace, shot them down.
2. Defend the French Airspace.
3. Place the entire Air Defense component of the French Aerospace Protection Command on alert 24/7.

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Deployment lists for Operation Blunder

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1x Georges Leygues-class destroyer | Paris Naval Base
Complement: 235
Fuel: Full
Armaments:

• Anti-ship:
• 4 × MM38/MM40 Exocet anti-ship missiles
• Anti-submarine:
• 2 × fixed torpedo tubes (10 × L5 mod 4 or MU90 torpedoes)
• Guns:
• 1 × Creusot-Loire Compact 100mm/55 Mod 68 DP gun
• 2 × 30 mm Breda-Mauser or 20 mm F2 anti-aircraft guns
• 2/4 × 12.7 machine guns
• CIWS:
• 1 × Crotale Navale EDIR octuple launcher (26 × CIWS anti-air missiles)
• 2 × Simbad twin launcher (Mistral 4 × CIWS anti-air missiles)

Supplies: Full
Aircraft: 1x NHIndustries NH90 NFH Helicopter

1x Rubis-class nuclear attack submarine | Brest Naval Base
Complement: 10 officers, 52 warrant officers, 8 petty officers
Armaments:

• 4 × 533 mm (21 in) torpedo tubes
• 14 of mixed capacity of the following
• F17 mod2 torpedoes
• 14 Exocet SM39 anti-ship missiles
• mines

Fuel: Nuclear & Full
Supplies: Full

1x Cassard-class frigate | Cherbourg Naval Base
Complement: 250
Fuel: Full
Armaments:

• Anti-air;
• 1 × Mk 13 launcher (40 × Standard SM-1MR anti-air missiles)
• Anti-ship;
• 8 × MM40 Exocet anti-ship missiles
• Anti-submarine;
• 2 × fixed torpedo tubes (10 × L5 mod 4 torpedoes)
• Guns;
• 1 × Creusot-Loire Compact 100 mm/55 Mod 68 DP gun
• 2 × 20 mm F2 anti-aircraft guns
• 4 × 12.7 mm machine guns
• CIWS;
• 2 × Sadral sextuple launcher (39 × Mistral CIWS anti-air missiles)

Supplies: Full
Aircraft: 1x NHIndustries NH90 NFH Helicopters

1x Cassard-class frigate | Cherbourg Naval Base
Complement: 250
Fuel: Full
Armaments:

• Anti-air;
• 1 × Mk 13 launcher (40 × Standard SM-1MR anti-air missiles)
• Anti-ship;
• 8 × MM40 Exocet anti-ship missiles
• Anti-submarine;
• 2 × fixed torpedo tubes (10 × L5 mod 4 torpedoes)
• Guns;
• 1 × Creusot-Loire Compact 100 mm/55 Mod 68 DP gun
• 2 × 20 mm F2 anti-aircraft guns
• 4 × 12.7 mm machine guns
• CIWS;
• 2 × Sadral sextuple launcher (39 × Mistral CIWS anti-air missiles)

Supplies: Full
Aircraft: 1x NHIndustries NH90 NFH Helicopters

1x Redoubtable-class Ballistic Missile Submarine| Marseille Naval Base
Complement: 135
Fuel: Nuclear & Full
Armaments:

• 16 × M4 MSBS (Mer-Sol Balistique Stratégique) nuclear missiles
• 4 × 533 mm (21 in) torpedo tubes
• F-17 and L-5 torpedoes
• SM-39 Exocet anti-ship missile

Supplies: Full

1x FREMM-class Frigate | Paris Naval Base
Complement: 145
Fuel: Full
Armaments:

• Anti-air missiles: FREMM-ASW with 16-cell MBDA SYLVER A43 VLS for 16 MBDA Aster 15 missiles; only 2 FREMM-AAW (Alsace and Lorraine) fitted with 16-cell MBDA SYLVER A50 VLS for 16 MBDA Aster 15 or 30 missiles
• 1 × Leonardo OTO Melara 76 mm SR gun
• 3 × Nexter 20mm Narwhal remote weapon systems
• Anti-ship missiles: 8 × MBDA MM-40 Exocet block 3 anti-ship missiles
• 16-cell MBDA SYLVER A70 VLS for 16 MBDA SCALP Naval land-attack cruise missiles
• Anti-submarine warfare: 2 x double Leonardo (WASS) B-515 launcher for MU 90 torpedoes

Supplies: Full
Aircraft: 1x NHIndustries NH90 NFH Helicopters

1x FREMM-class Frigate | Bordeux Naval Base
Complement: 145
Fuel: Full
Armaments:

• Anti-air missiles: FREMM-ASW with 16-cell MBDA SYLVER A43 VLS for 16 MBDA Aster 15 missiles; only 2 FREMM-AAW (Alsace and Lorraine) fitted with 16-cell MBDA SYLVER A50 VLS for 16 MBDA Aster 15 or 30 missiles
• 1 × Leonardo OTO Melara 76 mm SR gun
• 3 × Nexter 20mm Narwhal remote weapon systems
• Anti-ship missiles: 8 × MBDA MM-40 Exocet block 3 anti-ship missiles
• 16-cell MBDA SYLVER A70 VLS for 16 MBDA SCALP Naval land-attack cruise missiles
• Anti-submarine warfare: 2 x double Leonardo (WASS) B-515 launcher for MU 90 torpedoes

Supplies: Full
Aircraft: 1x NHIndustries NH90 NFH Helicopters

1x Durance-class tanker | Marseille naval base
Fuel: Full
Armaments: Full
Supplies: Full
Complement: 8 officers, 62 non-commissioned officers, 89 sailors

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French Air Defense Identification Zone (FRADIZ Sector)

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Organelle Squadron | Nancy - Ochey Air Base
10 Pilots, 100 Personnel
10x Dassault Mirage 2000 C (loadout is for each fighter)

• Guns Fully Loaded
• Fully Fueled
• Hardpoints: 9 total (4× under-wing, 5× under-fuselage) with a capacity of 6,300 kg (13,900 lb) external fuel and ordnance
• Rockets: Matra 68 mm unguided rocket pods, 18 rockets per pod
• 2× Matra R550 Magic-II AAM, 2× AM.39 Exocet & Mk.82 Unguided Bomb, 2× GBU-12 laser-guided bombs, 1× GBU-16 laser-guided bomb, 1× GBU-24 laser-guided bomb
• 1700 L drop tank 1358 kg of fuel for 188 nm of range (~ Combat Radius: 800 nm (1,475 km) w/ 4 250-kg bombs)

Star Air Squadron | Tours - Saint-Symphorien Air Base
10 Pilots, 100 Personnel
10 Dassault Rafale C (loadout for each fighter)

• Guns Fully Loaded
• Fully Fueled
• Magic II, MBDA MICA IR or EM, MBDA Meteors Air to Air Missiles
• MBDA Apache, MBDA Storm Shadow/SCALP-EG, AASM-Hammer (SBU-38/54/64), GBU-12 Paveway II, GBU-22 Paveway III, GBU-24 Paveway III, GBU-49 Enhanced Paveway II, AS-30L, Mark 82 Air to Ground Missiles
• MBDA AM 39-Exocet anti-ship missile
• ASMP-A nuclear missile

Snake Squadron | Orléans - Bricy Air Base
10 Pilots, 100 Personnel
10x Dassault Mirage 2000 C (loadout is for each fighter)

• Guns Fully Loaded
• Fully Fueled
• Hardpoints: 9 total (4× under-wing, 5× under-fuselage) with a capacity of 6,300 kg (13,900 lb) external fuel and ordnance
• Rockets: Matra 68 mm unguided rocket pods, 18 rockets per pod
• 2× Matra R550 Magic-II AAM, 2× AM.39 Exocet & Mk.82 Unguided Bomb, 2× GBU-12 laser-guided bombs, 1× GBU-16 laser-guided bomb, 1× GBU-24 laser-guided bomb
• 1700 L drop tank 1358 kg of fuel for 188 nm of range (~ Combat Radius: 800 nm (1,475 km) w/ 4 250-kg bombs)

Galm Squadron | Brétigny-sur-Orge Air Base
10 Pilots, 100 Personnel
10x Dassault Mirage 2000-5 Mark 2 (loadout is for each fighter)

• Guns Fully Loaded
• Fully Fueled
• Hardpoints: 9 total (4× under-wing, 5× under-fuselage) with a capacity of 6,300 kg (13,900 lb) external fuel and ordnance
• Rockets: Matra 68 mm unguided rocket pods, 18 rockets per pod
• 2× Matra R550 Magic-II AAM, 6× MBDA MICA IR/RF, 2× AM.39 Exocet & Mk.82 Unguided Bomb, 2× GBU-12 laser-guided bombs, 1× GBU-16 laser-guided bomb, 1× GBU-24 laser-guided bomb, 1x Spice 2000, 1× ASMP-A tactical nuclear cruise missile
• 1700 L drop tank 1358 kg of fuel for 188 nm of range (~ Combat Radius: 800 nm (1,475 km) w/ 4 250-kg bombs)

The all air assets: Dassault Mirage 2000 C, Dassault Mirage 2000-5 Mark 2, Dassault Rafale C prepped with full crew complements and prepared for interception missions against any incoming bogeys. The listed fighter aircrafts from designated French airbase were fully fueled for quick deployment and burn towards incoming bogeys/bandits. Germany, Netherlands, Norway, Britain and the all ISAF States were all informed of the possibility of French Rafale's and Mirage's taking off at a moment's warning to avoid any startling actions towards them. Should an Alert go Through, All Rafale's, Mirage 2000 C's and Mirage 2000-5 Mark 2's assigned this QRA would take off and immediately climb to Angels Flight Level 520 to find and intercept the target. These aircrafts would continue to scan the French Airspace and land to Designated French Airbases. These aircrafts also made sure that they should not step out of French Airspace, they would remain in the French Airspace. They would continue to refuel, rearm, resupply as they required. All information has been marked TOP Secret.

Any Flights heading to or from Foreign nations that supporting Argentina or Argentina would be marked as hostile and intercepted. Civilian flights would be forced to land at the Nearest Airport.

The fact that the French Air Force's Air Defense Corps was placing itself on Alert would be public, though NONE of the information in the Operational Document would be public (including the deployment list, loadouts, maps, and so on). The Air Defense Corps are ready to shoot down and engage with fighters as they see fit and continue to scan French Airspace 24/7.

In the meantime, all submarines would be fully manned and armed with SLBM's, torpedo. These two submarines would use the route IM > IN within French water, fully submerged. As they completed the radio silence, using sonar to check whether any enemy surface vessels are there. They would not leave the French maritime zone and continues to look for Argentine target. One submarine with Ballistic missile would be ready to launch SLBM to JM, KM and JN sector as they see fit. Refueling, rearming and resupplying would be done if necesary. Encrypted communication would be kept with HQ. This would be done very secretly and very cautiously.

Also, all multipurpose frigates, destroyers would be fully fueled and armed would depart their designated French naval base. They would remain in IM> IN and would continue to scan for Argentine container ships, trade vessels and naval surface vessels to block them. Refueling, rearming and resupplying would be done if necesary. Encrypted communication would be kept with HQ. All information has been shared to ISAF, Germany, Norway, Netherlands, Britain, United States. Again this would be done very privately and secretly.

@Odinson @Jamie @John @Dutchy

 

[Naio90]

“...all multipurpose frigates, destroyers would be fully fueled and armed would depart their designated French naval base.”:

The Georges Leygues-class destroyer and the FREMM-class Frigate (including their helicopters) that are stationed in the so called “Paris Naval Base” would be unable to move and run aground in the Seine River, given that this was the only navigable body of water within the City of Paris (As in “Paris Naval Base”). But even this river was not enough to make those two 4,500t and 6,000t huge war vessels sail, and this only refering to the depth of the river and not even considering the bridges. In fact, when attempting to comply with the indicated orders (stated above) they would slowly crash crash into the quays and old stone bridges of the city centre of Paris, not only receiving damage to their hull, but destroying key nods of the Paris infrastructure. It was assumed that several french citizens and sailors got injured or killed in this unsuccesful attempt. Power and communitacion lines runing under those bridges would be cut.

1x FREMM-class Frigates in Paris and Bordeaux Naval Bases:

Loadout statement regarding anti-air missiles:

“FREMM-ASW with 16-cell MBDA SYLVER A43 VLS for 16 MBDA Aster 15 missiles; only 2 FREMM-AAW (Alsace and Lorraine) fitted with 16-cell MBDA SYLVER A50 VLS for 16 MBDA Aster 15 or 30 missiles”

FREMM-ASW and FREMM-AAW are different types of FREMM configuration and cannot be the same at any given time. Therefore, the loadout of anti-air missiles in the FREMM-Class Frigates are void and asusmed therefore to have departed without any anti-air systems.

Also, the different types of launchers for the missiles indicated here completely exceeds the max amount of cells available on each ship, reinforcingthe statement mentioned that the indicated loadout is impossible to comply, and therefore void.


1x Redoubtable-class Ballistic Missile Submarine in Marseille Naval Base:

“16 × M4 MSBS (Mer-Sol Balistique Stratégique) nuclear missiles
4 × 533 mm (21 in) torpedo tubes
F-17 and L-5 torpedoes
SM-39 Exocet anti-ship missile”


No exact amount of F-17 and L-5 torpedoes are indicated, therefore it would be assumed that it departed carrying only 1 torpedo of each type. Same goes for the number of SM-39 Exocet ASM. Given no exact number or even aproximate is given, it would be assumed hat it only carried 1.

Regarding the loading of 16x M4 MSBS nuclear missiles , according to rules (“Weapons of Mass Destruction (Nuclear) with the exception of Chemical and Biological weapons are BANNED. All Nuclear warheads will be converted to Conventional.”) nuclear weapons are banned and have to be converted to conventional. However, given that the M4 has no existing evidence (in RL or MNverse) of ever being used without their nuclear warheads and that it was not stated what its replacement would be in this operation (or even an attempt to R&D a replacement that could fit MN rules), it would be deemed as carrying no warheads at all. Therefore, the 16 missiles carried by the submarine would have no warheads at all.


“In the meantime, all submarines would be fully manned and armed with SLBM's, torpedo. These two submarines would use the route IM > IN within French water, fully submerged. As they completed the radio silence, using sonar to check whether any enemy surface vessels are there. “

The submarines would depart without having any of their radar or sensor dedicated to navigational uses (“only seeking surface targets”, as stated by France), navigating completely in the dark. This would lead to only few hours (with luck) of navigation, until they would hit ocean floor obstacles, a sand bank or crush agains any of the bays in southern france, or the rocky hills of the islands wthin the indicated areas of operation, getting destroyed in the process.


“Also, all multipurpose frigates, destroyers would be fully fueled and armed would depart their designated French naval base. They would remain in IM> IN and would continue to scan for Argentine container ships,”

The Frigates and ships that did manage to get out of their docks (and did not crush against a century old stone bridge in Paris) would be navigating as well withouth any of their radar systems on, relying only on visual navigation. With the dark of the night, this would mean that the french ships would be unable to see where they were heading, as no form of navigation was active. This would lead to many if not all of the ships to run agains a sand back, hitting rocks on the coast or crashing against other ships operating in the area.

@Sumit

 

[Deleted member 5]

French Armed Forces
Operation Blunder
TOP SECRET & CLASSIFIED- Stored on the paper document​

In response to Argentine Operation Payback, the French Navy deploying forces would secretly noted the vast naval deployment that are nearby Corsica in the JN sector. So, the French Naval Ballistic Submarine, Redoubtable-class that are stationed in Marseille Naval Base would be ready. This submarine were armed with 16 × M4 MSBS SLBM, 4 × 533 mm (21 in) torpedo tubes, F-17 and L-5 torpedoes, SM-39 Exocet anti-ship missiles. The submarine would be fully submerged and underwater.

Suddenly, high pitched alarm noise began ringing. Submarine crews would call Captain Brunt to see what's going on.

Captain would raise the periscope, his eyes looks very concerning by seeing so many naval ships in the Mediterrean Sea and Adriatic Sea. He would completely lowered the periscope so that no one in the area can see any periscope. He would then contact the French Naval Command.

[Flash]

"Unidentified ships detected at vector 2-3-9, near French maritime boundaries and the both Mediterrean Sea along with Adriatric Sea.

What the F*** are these? Do we have any information regarding to these ships.

Negative, we have to inform control. Track these F***ing ships.

We have picked up a possible unidentified numerous ships from an unidentified source on international waters around 20°47'30"S 80°20'55"W. "

Again this would be secret.

Once Redoubtable-class fully armed up, the Captain Brunt of this submarine would radioed "HQ, this Tombstone Zero- one, bearing one two zero, we are going explosive. Let's do counting. We will drop 3 SLBM to JN Sector. Over."

As soon the commander radio silenced, he would backwards, 5 to 1. The silo would open. 1st M4 SLBM would launch, the M4 SLBM can go upto 5000 KM. The SLBM would travel through IM > JN sector and would land on JN Sector. Any foreign ships in the area would be completed wreackage. The commander would recount backward following and relaunch 2nd M4 SLBM and 3rd M4 SLBM. It will glide using IM>JN route and land the JN sector. Again, any foreign ships, which enemy ships would be completely destroyed. All surface vessels in the area are submerged, commenced assault.

After the destruction at the Mediterrean Sea and Adriatric Sea, the redoubtable class would docked at Marseille Naval Base, for rearming and resupplying for the next attack.

As soon as they rearmed with 16 × M4 MSBS SLBM, 4 × 533 mm (21 in) torpedo tubes, F-17 and L-5 torpedoes, SM-39 Exocet anti-ship missiles, the Redoubtable would be still submerged underwater and continue to looking for enemy target and the submarine would not leave French water, they would remain on French water.

 

[Naio90]

"In response to Argentine Operation Payback, the French Navy deploying forces would secretly noted the vast naval deployment that are nearby Corsica in the JN sector. "

Operation Payback, just as all other argentine operations are SECRET and neither France, nor anyone, has information about its existence. Also, the argentine deployment in the Mediterranean sea (JN) consists at the moment only of submarines, which France has no way to detect as it has no naval means deployed capable to detect them as they are submerged (as mentioned in the corresponding post).

Considering this, and the previous attempt at metagaming, the first part of post #3 is not valid.

"This submarine were armed with 16 × M4 MSBS SLBM, 4 × 533 mm (21 in) torpedo tubes, F-17 and L-5 torpedoes, SM-39 Exocet anti-ship missiles. The submarine would be fully submerged and underwater. "

As stated in post #2, not only isn't this the loadout of the submarine (countered in post #2), but it also already crashed against the ground due to not navigating with any system or sensor active.

"Captain would raise the periscope, his eyes looks very concerning by seeing so many naval ships in the Mediterrean Sea and Adriatic Sea. "

The Adriatic is several hundreds of kilometers to the east, beyond Italy, there is no way the captain can see that from southern france (unless he is some X-Man, which wasn't mentioned before, therefore its not valid). Also, the submarine sunk. Besides... there are no surface ships out there, only submarines.... Which cannot be detected due to the lack of means to do it.

Summarizing: No submarines active, all sunk or out of combat. And they had not even the weapons mentioned in post #3 on board.

Also, considering that the last response made no mention of the fate of the Frigates and Destroyers, it was confirmed that they all sank, went out of combat or wrecked Paris.

@Sumit

 

[Naio90]

With the passing of 24h without response or attempt at countering, according to MN rules, #4 is confirmed as a succesfull. This would mean that:

1x FREMM-class Frigate | Paris Naval Base	Ran aground and crashed in Seine River, Paris. - Out of Combat
1x Georges Leygues-class destroyer | Paris Naval Base	Ran aground and crashed in Seine River, Paris. - Out of Combat
1x Rubis-class nuclear attack submarine | Brest Naval Base	Crashed against ocean floor - Sunk
2x Cassard-class frigate | Cherbourg Naval Base	Collisioned at sea - Sunk
1x Redoubtable-class Ballistic Missile Submarine| Marseille Naval Base	Crashed against ocean floor - Sunk
1x FREMM-class Frigate | Bordeux Naval Base	Struck underwater rocks - Sunk
1x Durance-class tanker | Marseille naval base	Stuck in a sandbank at low tide - Out of Combat

@Sumit