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Spain | Defense Procurement Aircraft

Bruno

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Jul 1, 2018
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Ministerio de Defensa

Ministry of Defence

Official Defense Procurement


The Kingdom of Spain is looking to buy and possibly license a good and dedicated fixed wing aircraft for the role of Strike, Ground Support and Attack Missions. The Aircraft needs to meet the following criteria. However if the aircraft is proven to be of good quality some of the criteria can be wavered.

Combat Range: +500 km
Double Seat: Pilot & Weapons Officer
Speed: +Mach 2
Service ceiling: +40,000 ft

NOT AIR TO AIR COMBAT
 
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Connor

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Government of Sweden
Löfven Administration


Security Classification: CONFIDENTIAL
Document Classification and Security Act 1995​



Swedish Defence Materiel Administration would make the following recommendation, also willing to slash the cost per unit significantly as a gesture of good will, should a bulk order be placed.
It should be noted that this aircraft is single seat, rather than the preferred dual seat in the aforementioned specifications.

A special 'one-time-only' price has been applied in pursuit of a strong SWE-ESP relationship.


Saab 37 Viggen
$13,000,000.00 p/u



Crown Copyright © Kingdom of Sweden
All information is subject to the Swedish Document Classification and Security Act 1995
 

JakeDorent

The Empire of the Americas
Nov 14, 2019
839
The Empire of Brazil would offer the following:




AMX-A1

General characteristics:
Crew: 1
Length:
13.23 m (43 ft 5 in)
Wingspan: 8.87 m (29 ft 1 in)
Height: 4.55 m (14 ft 11 in)
Wing area: 21 m² (230 sq ft)
Empty weight: 6,700 kg (14,771 lb)
Empty weight: 10,750 kg (23,700 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 13,000 kg (28,660 lb)
Fuel Capacity:
3,555 l (939 US gal; 782 imp gal) / 2,700 kg (5,952 lb) internal 2x 1,000 l (260 US gal; 220 imp gal), drop tanks inboard and 2x 500 l (130 US gal; 110 imp gal) drop tanks outboard
Powerplant: 1x Turbofan engine, 49.1 kN (11,000 lbf) thrust

Performance:

Maximum Speed: 1,053 km/h (654 mph, 569 kn) at 10,975 m (36,007 ft)
Combat Range: 889 km (552 mi, 480 nmi) hi-lo-hi profile, with 900 kg (1,984 lb) of external stores
Ferry Range: 3,336 km (2,073 mi, 1,801 nmi)
Endurance: 4 hours 15 minutes
Service ceiling: 13,000 m (43,000 ft)
Rate of climb: 52.1 m/s (10,260 ft/min)
Wing loading: 512 kg/m2 (105 lb/sq ft)
Thrust/Weight: 0.47 propulsive efficiency

Cost: $26,000,000.00
Bruno
 

Logan

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Jul 1, 2018
995
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MIRAGE 2000D



$40,500,000



General characteristics

Crew: 2
Length: 14.55 m (47 ft 9 in)
Wingspan: 9.13 m (29 ft 11 in)
Height: 5.15 m (16 ft 11 in)
Wing area: 41 m2 (440 sq ft)
Empty weight: 7,600 kg (16,755 lb)
Gross weight: 10,680 kg (23,545 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 17,000 kg (37,479 lb)
Powerplant: 1 × SNECMA M53-P2 afterburning turbofan engine, 64 kN (14,000 lbf) thrust dry, 95.1 kN (21,400 lbf) with afterburner

Performance

Maximum speed: 2,338 km/h (1,453 mph, 1,262 kn)
Combat range: 1,480 km (920 mi, 800 nmi)
Ferry range: 3,340 km (2,080 mi, 1,800 nmi)
Service ceiling: 18,000 m (59,000 ft)
Rate of climb: 285 m/s (56,100 ft/min)
Wing loading: 410 kg/m2 (84 lb/sq ft)
Thrust/weight: *Propulsive efficiency: 0.91 (non dimensional)


Hardpoints:

4× under-wing

4× under fuselage

1× centerline



Rockets: ** Up to 4x Matra SNEB 68-mm 18-round rocket pods on the four underwing hardpoints

Missiles:



Up to 4× R550 Magic air-to-air missiles for self-defence, normally 2 on the outboard underwing pylons

Up to 6× MICA air-to-air missiles for self-defence, normally 2 on the outboard underwing pylons

1× Apache anti-runway cruise missile on the centerline pylon

1× SCALP EG air-launched cruise missile on the centerline pylon

2× AS-30L laser-guided missiles on the inboard underwing pylons



Bombs: ** AASM 125, 250, 1000 Kg laser, ISN/GPS, IIR guided bombs. The lighter versions are carried in pairs on the centerline and inboard wing hardpoints and one under each of the four fuselage hardpoints

up to 10× GBU-12 227 Kg laser-guided bombs or GBU-49 227 Kg INS/GPS and laser guided bombs, in pairs on the centerline and inboard wing hardpoints and one under each of the four fuselage hardpoints

up to 3× GBU-16 454 Kg laser-guided bombs on the centerline and inboard wing hardpoints

up to 3× GBU-10 907 Kg laser-guided bombs on the centerline and inboard wing hardpoints

up to 3× GBU-24 907 Kg laser-guided bombs on the centerline and inboard wing hardpoints

up to 3× BGL-400 400 Kg laser-guided bombs on the centerline and inboard wing hardpoints

up to 3× BGL-1000 1000 Kg laser-guided bombs on the centerline and inboard wing hardpotins

Bruno
 

Jamie

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XStatement of Product SaleX

Good Evening,

I hope you are well.

I am emailing you in regards to the recent announcement from the Spanish Government in relation to a
procurement package for a dedicated fix wing aircraft.
Nexus Defence currently has one of the worlds leading air-to-ground airframes which we believe meets
your requirements.

The Panavia Tornado GR4 meets all specified characteristics:

Combat Range: +500 km
Double Seat: Pilot & Weapons Officer
Speed: +Mach 2
Service ceiling: +40,000 ft


The price is ranged at 67,500,000.00 per aircraft, however, we will apply a 20% discount to the first
three orders of the airframe you make with Nexus.
Additionally, a licence will be offered free of charge for maintenance of the product.

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Kind Regards,
Amy Templeton,
Administrator
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Bruno
 

Bruno

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Jul 1, 2018
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The Spanish Ministry of Defense would take note of all participant aircraft and will evaluate the best matches for its needs, all sellers will be informed of the first decision process and which aircraft will be going into Phase 2 of 3

Jamie Logan JakeDorent Connor
 

Bruno

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Jul 1, 2018
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Jamie Logan JakeDorent Connor


The Following aircraft would have made it to phase 2 of the Procurement, the following providers would have been sent a couple of questions from the Ministry of Defense, to be answered. Unfortunatlly the Brazilian Aircraft was not able to continue to phase 2, but the Ministry of Defense thanks the offer and may contact Brazil in the future regarding it. These Messages would be private and encrypted.
AircraftQuestions

Panavia Tornado GR4 - NEXUS

Is it possible to sign a contact to buy 24, in batches of 4, being payed regularly? This due to its price, even with 20% being extremely expensive endeavour.
Regarding its Ground Attack capabilities, what is its success rate?
Can its avionics detect hostile aircraft beyond visual and engagement range? And can it escape unharmed without detection?
Can the aircraft preform alone or does it need a dedicated escort?
Does this Aircraft have ECM or Surveillance Capabilities?
Against Counter-Insurgency how does this Aircraft fair?
How does it compare with other aircraft such as the French Mirage 2000D and the Swedish Saab 37 Viggen


Mirage 2000D - France

Is it possible to sign a contact to buy 24, in batches of 6, being payed regularly? This due to its price being slightly costly for the Ministry of Defense.
Regarding its Ground Attack capabilities, what is its success rate?
Can its avionics detect hostile aircraft beyond visual and engagement range?
Does this Aircraft have ECM or Surveillance Capabilities?
Can the aircraft preform alone or does it need a dedicated escort?
Against Counter-Insurgency how does this Aircraft fair?
How does it compare with other aircraft such as the British Panavia Tornado GR4 and the Swedish Saab 37 Viggen


SAAB 37 Viggen - Sweden

For its quality-price ratio, it seems that this aircraft performs over expectations, how many is the Kingdom of Sweden willing to produce for the Kingdom of Spain?
Regarding its Ground Attack capabilities, what is its success rate? And Does it have a dedicated runway-kill ordenance?
Can its avionics detect hostile aircraft beyond visual and engagement range? And can it escape unharmed unharmed without detection?
Does this Aircraft have ECM or Surveillance Capabilities?
Can the aircraft preform alone or does it need a dedicated escort?
Against Counter-Insurgency how does this Aircraft fair?
How does it compare with other aircraft such as the British Panavia Tornado GR4 and the French Mirage 2000D?

 

Logan

Senior
Jul 1, 2018
995
The Representatives from the French Government and Dassault would submit their answers to the questions.

Is it possible to sign a contact to buy 24, in batches of 6, being payed regularly? This due to its price being slightly costly for the Ministry of Defense.

This is Possible, yes.

Regarding its Ground Attack capabilities, what is its success rate?
It is believed to have a success rate approaching 100%.

Can its avionics detect hostile aircraft beyond visual and engagement range?
The Antilope 5 Radar's air-to-air mode does not have BVR capabilities, however we can offer a multirole variant of the Mirage 2000 (Mirage 2000-5) that carries the RDY2 Multi-target radar which does provide these capabilities alongside stike capabilities.

Does this Aircraft have ECM or Surveillance Capabilities?
the Mirage-2000D has an integrated countermeasures system, the ICMS2, which includes jamming capabilities, RWRs, and countermeasure release. Surveillance wise it is capable of using the ATLIS II and PDLCT/PDLCT-S targeting pods, though by 2004 we should be able to outfit them with a new DAMOCLES targeting pod with enhanced reconnaissance capabilities

Can the aircraft preform alone or does it need a dedicated escort?
While we would suggest a small escort if entering highly contested airspace where it is likely to meet dedicated air superiority platforms, in most situations the self-defense capabilities of the Mirage 2000D should prove themselves to be an adequate defense.

Against Counter-Insurgency how does this Aircraft fair?
The Mirage 2000D is excellent in both the ground attack and counter-insurgency roles.

How does it compare with other aircraft such as the British Panavia Tornado GR4 and the Swedish Saab 37 Viggen

the Mirage 2000D provides superior top speed to the Saab 37 Viggen and roughly equivalent top speed to the GR4, while having a superior range and thrust/weight ratio to both. It also has a smaller wing loading than both of them, providing higher maneuverability and shorter takeoff and landing distances.

In the ground attack roles, it is slightly better than the Panavia Tornado with a larger repertoire of tools available, while both have far more advanced capabilities than the Viggen. In Air to Air it suffers due to its primary mission as a tactica/strategic bomber but still provides a strong defensive capability for plan built specifically for the strike capability.

Bruno
 

Jamie

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NEXUS
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EUROPEAN LAND SYSTEMS
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XStatement of Product SaleX

Good Evening,

I hope you are well.

Thank you for getting back to us in relation to the Tornado GR4.

Is it possible to sign a contact to buy 24, in batches of 4, being payed regularly? This due to its price,
even with 20% being extremely expensive endeavour.

We will be happy to accomodate a finance package for you to procure 24, in batches of 4.
This would be done on a monthly basis.

In relation to your other questions, I have attached the full specification for your information.

Attached: Tornado GR4 Specification

Please let me know if you have any questions.

Kind Regards,
Amy Templeton,
Administrator
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Bruno
 

Bruno

GA Member
Jul 1, 2018
2,543
With no Answer from the Swedish Phase 2 would end and phase 3 would commence with only the British Tornado and the French Mirage being choose to continue to the next phase.
Phase 3 objective would be the evaluation of both aircraft capabilities, their prices, maintenance. In the coming hours both parties will know which aircraft will be picked.

Jamie Logan
 

Bruno

GA Member
Jul 1, 2018
2,543
The announcement would come towards both products owners, due to the quality of the British Product, and its role in the Spanish Air Force, it would be the product to be picked for the Kingdom of Spain. Every participant would be thanked for participating and offering their products, however for its quality-price the Tornado would be the best pick.

Privately the Ministry of Defense would inform Nexus that it will open the order in statements, hopefully reaching the agreement to buy 75 Tornado GR4 for the total of $4 050 000 000 with the discount already included, being payed for 4 parts of $1 012 500 000 every month (tax week), with the agreement to seal the rest of the payment early if the Spanish Budget allows. Would this be an acceptable agreement for Nexus?

Jamie Logan
 

Jamie

Admin
GA Member
World Power
Jan 6, 2018
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Nexus Group has responded to the Kingdom of Spain on a private line, confirming the discounted value and finance agreement and have requested they submit the order form via the defence catalogue and mark it as 'On Finance'.

Bruno
 

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