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[Nigeria] Message to the Russian Federation

HeadlessSeeker

GA Member
Jul 1, 2018
2,823
"The ongoing crisis is a dangerous one. Previous Russian administrations have ignored the Chechen question and many other domestic issues. The hostage crisis has opened our eyes to another matter as well. Previous international responses against terrorism have been lacking. Only attacking the symptoms rather then the root causes or origins. AIGAT invaded bombed the Global Assembly, Invaded Tunisia, and took part in an attempted overthrow of Iraq. Massive terrorist and extremest uprisings have periodically occurred since. That begs the question. Where do they get their funding? Where are the based out of? Who gives them training? Countries that harbor these terrorists and tend out multiple splinter groups from their own are to blame. The
Caucasus Emirate (and its associated groups), Taliban, and Al-qaeda are all linked and all allies. Their bases of operation we believe are the Islamic State of Afghanistan/Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan and Uzbekistan. I will tell you what we need now. We need support in securing our region against these groups and ensuring Serbia does not fall to them either."

"Yes, lets discuss the arms deal first then move onto the other treaties. The contract you presented is agreeable but there are some questionable choices in equipment. Specifically your choice of IFV vehicles. I have been told that modernized variants of the BMP-2 would be a better choice then it's original one."

@JJSmithJr
 

JJSmithJr

Senior
Jul 1, 2018
924
"We agree that a wholesale international solution to terrorism is required, it is dire indeed to hear the neglect of previous administrations in Russia regarding the problem, Boko Haram, largely followed a similar path, although their membership has seen a sharp decline since the government stabilized over two years ago. Unemployment and other issues largely have been solved, the eventual banning of Sharia courts and law seems to have set the remaining hardliners off. We have several Counter Insurgency Special Forces Units, albeit the cost of sending them to Russia would be severe and logistically difficult at the moment. We believe that an organized CIS counter to international terrorism is soon to come, and will lead to the pushing back of this most recent international insurgency.

As for the arms deal, the BTR-70, while an old vehicle is an ideal vehicle for the Nigerian National Guard and to hold in reserve, it is easy to maintain, inexpensive, and reliable, as for the BMP-2, we would happily listen to what the modernization packages offer, but we are most interested in an autocannon capable IFV that can be used support our lighter APCs and Infantry. The Kurganets-25 Infantry Fighting Vehicle perhaps would be a better option for this role?"
 

HeadlessSeeker

GA Member
Jul 1, 2018
2,823
"While those things all may true there is a difference when it comes to using outdated equipment and modernized equipment. Surely the BTR-82A would be a better fit for the role? Or at the very least the 15Ya56M MBP which we plan on using as a base security vehicle. When it comes to the BMP-2 we recommend at the very least the use of the BMP-2M "Berezhok" rather then it's outdated original model. The majority of your choices in platform are fine, but its your selection of variant and model. We will not sell countries a product that will negatively represent our defense industry. For the BMP-3 the modernized model BMP-3M would also be a better choice. However your other choices we can endorse fully."

@JJSmithJr
 

JJSmithJr

Senior
Jul 1, 2018
924
"The advantage of the BTR-70 is purely its cost, it is substantially less expensive than our own domestic armored personnel carriers, while it is obvious that the BTR-82A is a superior vehicle its costs exceed our local productions, what would the cost of the 15Ya56M MBP be? We would be happy to swap in the Kurganets-25 Infantry Fighting Vehicle for the BMP-2, and would be happy to have the upgraded BMP-3M, we certainly understand the position of ensuring solid equipment is sold to your exporters, and we appreciate your expertise."

@HeadlessSeeker
 

HeadlessSeeker

GA Member
Jul 1, 2018
2,823
"I think you will find that the weaknesses will far outweigh any advantages gained from the saving you make on cost. The BTR-70 only protects from small arms fire, a HMG or anything larger will tear through it. That is why we have only kept it around as a base security vehicle. So you are saying that you do not want the BMP-2M "Berezhok" and will only settle for the Kurganets-25?"

@JJSmithJr
 

JJSmithJr

Senior
Jul 1, 2018
924
"Indeed, you have convinced me that the BTR-70 will not do in this role for our national guard., given that we cannot find another alternative offered by Russia, we will fill the armored personnel needs in the future of our national guard with domestic production, it is not a worry at all, the ProForce MRAP and Igirigi will continue to serve us in this capacity. As for the Kurganets, it is our impression it is the superior vehicle, and we had thought you were attempting to convince us to purchase the most modern, and superior equipment, regardless, we are fine with the BMP-2M, and we have a revised bid for you to price and evaluate."

400 T-80BV-U
1,000 T-72B4 / T-72B3M
4,000 BTR-90
1,000 BMP-3M
2,000 BMP-2M "Berezhok"
400 BM-27M Uragan-1M MLRS
400 2S1 Gvozdika
200 2S3 Akatsiya
20,000 Ratnik
40,000 AK-74M Assault Rifles

@HeadlessSeeker
 

HeadlessSeeker

GA Member
Jul 1, 2018
2,823
"Good, as allies we cannot afford to give you equipment that under performs. If a domestic option is superior then you should use your industry. I am sure the makers of it would appreciate it as well you know? Also, we were just making sure as the price is higher and you were wanting the cheaper solution as you mentioned before. However, if you wish to purchase the Kurganets you will find it is one of the very best IFVs on the market. Far superior to the BMP-2M."

@JJSmithJr
 

JJSmithJr

Senior
Jul 1, 2018
924
"Yes, indeed we can certainly understand that position, we would still like to purchase 1,000 BTR 70s for our Northern Police Units, in this role they will still serve a purpose, I appreciate your guidence on the issue as I was clearly sent unprepared. As for the Kurganets, we would be happy to have it rather than the BMP-2M if you are willing to sell it. It is indeed quite the machine.

We are also interested in numerous other Russian small arms, specifically the RPG-9, 9K333 Verba SA-25, the Kord 6P50, the Vityaz SN, and the Vepr-12. We were curious if any of these were available for export."

@HeadlessSeeker
 

HeadlessSeeker

GA Member
Jul 1, 2018
2,823
"If you just need them for Police units then they should suffice and the base security version 15Ya56M MBP would be overkill. So, in this case if they are to be used by the Police we will refurbish some BTR-70 vehicles for your use. Also, as a fellow member of CIS you have access to our Special Order Program, so the Kurganets is something we are more then willing to sell you. When it comes to small arms, I am not sure the RPG-9 exists. We can however sell you the RPG-29 which is capable of penetrating the majority of modern main battle tanks including the Challenger 2. The 9K333 Verba,
Vityaz-SN, Kord 6P50, and VEPR-12 are naturally for sale we will just need to get a price. Though are you interested in setting up local production? For a fee we can give you a production licence and sell you the tooling necessary to properly build said equipment. Also, if I may there are a few suggestions for soon to come to the catalog equipment. The UAZ-23632-148-64, Mi-24PS, Credo-1E Ground Surveillance Radar, Fara-VR Ground Surveillance Radar, and Yakovlev Yak-130. This is equipment that your government is believed to find useful for insurgencies."

@JJSmithJr
 

JJSmithJr

Senior
Jul 1, 2018
924
"We believe that these heavier vehicles with their heavy machine guns will provide a good stern warning to insurgents and a good strong response vehicle for our rural police units in the North. Depending on how they serve, we may seek the domestic license on the product so we are not dependent on a foreign exporter for a police product. I will inform my police chiefs of the news, they have been clamoring for heavier vehicles.

We are most grateful for the trust your government has granted ours as fellow allies in the Confederation of Independent States, we believe that the organization is vital for our national security, and we are happy to see it grow, and hope it rapidly evolves into the powerful entity it is capable of being. We are very happy that you have extended these privileges to the alliance. We believe it to be to the alliances advantage to have such a strong arms provider available to us. This will help ensure a much more synchronized joint force and response unit.

As for the small arms, yes of course, the RPG-29, this is the weapon we are seeking, as well as the others, we are uncertain if we will need the numbers of most of them to justify the need for a domestic license for production, it would depend on the price of the licenses and the price of export. We will of course pay for maintenance licenses of all of our equipment. Furthermore we are most interested in surveillance equipment to aid us in the fight against insurgents in Africa. As well as other equipment to round out and make our armed forces a more flexible and modern force. We would be interested in hearing the prices of this equipment once you have it.

Now that you mention the Yak-130, there are several Russian Aircraft that we believe we need to round out our air force, and fight off the insurgency. We believe that a large aircraft purchase will be prudent and our technicians offer the following order, although again we will accept any suggestions you have:

48 Su-25SM
8 IIyushin II-78
4 Tupolev Tu-214R ELINT Aircraft
24 Altius-M Heavy UAV
12 Mikoyan Skat UAV

This should be the final ground quote, we have decided to replace our french APCs with the BTR-82A as well after consideration:

600 T-80BV-U
1,000 T-72B4 / T-72B3M
4,000 BTR-90
4,000 BTR-82A
1,000 BMP-3M
2,000 BMP-2M "Berezhok"
400 BM-27M Uragan-1M MLRS
400 2S1 Gvozdika
200 2S3 Akatsiya
20,000 Ratnik
40,000 AK-74M Assault Rifles

@HeadlessSeeker
 
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HeadlessSeeker

GA Member
Jul 1, 2018
2,823
"You will want to do more then give a stern warning to them yes? Regardless, those heavy machine guns should serve you and your police rather well.

We must ensure our allies are strong, so placing restraints on what we can supply our allies with would only serve to weaken us yes?

Once the prices have returned for the equipment requested I can get you the price list as soon as possible. Also, the Fara-VR Ground Surveillance Radar and Credo-1E Ground Surveillance Radar are $264,000.00 and $480,000.00 per unit.

The final price for the selected equipment is $45,350,676,660.00 minus the Ratnik as that is surprisingly not listed on our catalog at the moment."

@JJSmithJr
 

JJSmithJr

Senior
Jul 1, 2018
924
"Indeed we could not agree with your assessment more, and we are pleased to have a loyal friend in the Russian government. We would obviously prefer to pay for this order in batches, preferably as it is produced as it is an order of immense size. We would propose breaking it into stages based on the needs of our armed forces. Most urgently is the air package, we propose the order be broken into the following batches to be produced in serial production, and paid in installments.

We would prefer to pay in eight monthly installments as follows:

Payment One:
11,337,500,000.00

Payment Two:
4,858,928,571.43

Payment Three:
4,858,928,571.43

Payment Four:
4,858,928,571.43

Payment Five:
4,858,928,571.43

Payment Six:
4,858,928,571.43

Payment Seven:
4,858,928,571.43

Payment Eight:
4,858,928,571.43





Batch One:

48 Su-25SM
8 IIyushin II-78
4 Tupolev Tu-214R ELINT Aircraft
24 Altius-M Heavy UAV
12 Mikoyan Skat UAV
500 T-72B4 / T-72B3M
400 BM-27M Uragan-1M MLRS
400 2S1 Gvozdika
200 2S3 Akatsiya
40,000 AK-74M Assault Rifles

Batch Two:
500 T-80BV-U
500 T-72B4 / T-72B3M
500 BTR-90
500 BTR-82A
500 BMP-3M
500 BMP-2M "Berezhok"

Batch Three:
100 T-80BV-U
500 BTR-90
500 BTR-82A
500 BMP-3M
500 BMP-2M "Berezhok"

Batch Four:
500 BTR-90
500 BTR-82A
500 BMP-2M "Berezhok"

Batch Five:
500 BTR-90
500 BTR-82A
500 BMP-2M "Berezhok"

Batch Six:
500 BTR-90
500 BTR-82A

Batch Seven:
500 BTR-90
500 BTR-82A

Batch Eight:
500 BTR-90
500 BTR-82A

Batch Nine:
500 BTR-90
500 BTR-82A

If this is acceptable or if you have suggestions to modify to the agreement, please let us know."

@HeadlessSeeker
 

HeadlessSeeker

GA Member
Jul 1, 2018
2,823
"This is more then acceptable, however if I may ask a couple of questions before moving forward? How much time would you like between bathes? Would you like for them to remain a secret? Will you be building on a military unit by military unit basis? I believe that overall even if I am not the formost expert on such matters that this will be more then enough for your country to defend itself on land."

@JJSmithJr
 

JJSmithJr

Senior
Jul 1, 2018
924
"This is rather embarrassing, but given the recent shift in the geopolitical tensions around the globe, we will have to change this order somewhat, we have become glaringly aware of the lack of our own anti-air defense network, our previous agreement with the German government falling apart when their government collapsed and was replaced. Given funding constraints we would like to focus the order on this equipment as well as a some artillery and main battle tanks.

We will go through the process of updating our infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers at a slower pace, we do hope you understand. We would like to see the pricing for the following order:

20 S-300PS systems
50 Tor Missile Systems
50 Buk Missile Systems
100 BM-27M Uragan-1M MLRS
200 2S1 Gvozdika
100 2S3 Akatsiya
300 T-80BV-U
400 T-72B4 / T-72B3M"

@HeadlessSeeker
 

HeadlessSeeker

GA Member
Jul 1, 2018
2,823
"It is completely understandable, requirements change all the time. Though before we proceed and while inam not expert I would like to ask. How do you intend to devide this equipment up? Structure it if you will. As allies we want to ensure you get the best bang for your buck."

@JJSmithJr
 

JJSmithJr

Senior
Jul 1, 2018
924
"The plan now is to deploy the anti air systems in a two fold systems with roughly 60% of the systems deployed along our coastline, with the other 40% being deployed around strategic bases and vital industrial centers. Lagos alone has 12 million residents. The tanks and the artillery will be deployed in crack frontline mobile units, meant to penetrate and strike supply lines, as well as over run enemy positions. Rapid movement is the doctrine of the Nigerian land forces, this rapid movement must be supported by large regional firepower superiority provided by heavy artillery."

@HeadlessSeeker
 

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